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Old 06-19-2014, 08:36 PM   #101
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Way back when....during the Hillary vs O primary, I voted for O because Hillary has never appealed to me. She has done a good job reminding me of how grating she can be. I still do not know what she has done to be a viable candidate besides being married to a lovable louse who was A President that seems charming to women (?). Sec of State is a titile that is not assigned by merit.

The popular term I hear at least 2x a day is authentic. Horses are; Hillary is not IMO. She seems to me to be a plotter. A climbing sort of person who tries to manipulate all situations to her advantage. Now I believe we all try to do this as a survival skill, however not as a MO.

Fox News alert.... Middle had a blast working on the interview with Brett & Gretta!!
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Old 06-20-2014, 05:36 AM   #102
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Hilary Clinton was not only Secretary of State which is one of the most important cabinet positions but was also a U.S. Senator from New York.

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Old 06-26-2014, 02:22 AM   #103
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John McCain may have encouraged the funding of ISIS.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...bandar/373181/

And Quatar backed al-Nusra. Prince Bandar al-Sultan was also a minor character in Tom Clancy novels.
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Old 06-26-2014, 05:37 AM   #104
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The Mideast is a mess and sadly it will probably get worse as Iraq continues to implode.

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Old 06-27-2014, 09:24 AM   #105
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From your article, RT, "John McCain’s desire to help rebel forces toss off a brutal dictator and fight for a more just and inclusive Syria is admirable. But as has been proven repeatedly in the Middle East, ousting strongmen doesn’t necessarily produce more favorable successor governments. Embracing figures like Bandar, who may have tried to achieve his objectives in Syria by building a monster, isn't worth it."

That's certainly the truth.

Also that this historian would say a very similar thing, about WWI: "And I suppose the fifth is, Europeans have a reluctance to engage in enterprises like the Iraq invasion because they know something in their family histories that Americans frequently don't, and that is that the best way to deal with war on this scale is not to practice it at all."From an interview with historian Jay Winter, "Five things Americans should know about the Great War:"
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed...mn.html#page=1
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Old 06-27-2014, 10:20 AM   #106
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RIP, Howard Baker.

We obviously didn't know it at the time, but the Watergate break-in was the night of my high school graduation.
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Old 06-27-2014, 12:07 PM   #107
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Yes, one of the founders of the foundation that is sponsoring steam's seminar.
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Old 07-01-2014, 11:32 PM   #108
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Ugh. I have to stop looking for some peaceful place to put politics. This is probably my 4th post ( others deleted ) on last Friday's forum. First it was not nearly as well attended as I expected ( what does that say? ). 2nd the opening agenda & platform was promising. Conclusion: It was a bash fest. IMHO emotions not only ruled but canceled out any thoughtful points.

I feel bad that I was asked to share my experience & seemed to ignore DOL. For now I label the discussion of politics & the media in Asheville ~UNHINGED....
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Old 07-02-2014, 05:01 AM   #109
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Hi steam -- Welcome to the current American political scene. We are highly polarized.

"IMHO emotions not only ruled but canceled out any thoughtful points."

It may have been worth the price of admission just to have gotten to that point.
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Unbelievable.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/06/opinio...nse/index.html
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